WASHINGTON — U.S. President-elect Donald Trump says he will deport two million to three million undocumented immigrants who have criminal records when he assumes power and keep his campaign pledge to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexican border to thwart the stream of illegal migration into the country.
“What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, where a lot of these people, probably two million, it could be even three million, we are getting them out of our country or we are going to incarcerate,” Trump told the CBS network’s “60 Minutes” show. “But we’re getting them out of our country, they’re here illegally.”
Building a wall
In an excerpt of the interview released before its airs Sunday night, Trump said he intends to build the wall, a favorite campaign promise for his most devoted supporters, but that part of the barrier might be “some fencing.”
The blunt-spoken real estate mogul said, “I’m very good at this, it’s called construction.” He has vowed to get Mexico to pay for the wall, but the U.S.’s southern neighbor says it will not.
Overall, about 11 million undocumented immigrants live in the U.S., but Trump said that after the border is secure and the initial group of law-breaking immigrants is deported, his government would decide what to do with the remaining millions of undocumented migrants living in the United States.
“After the border is secure and after everything gets normalized,” he said, “we’re going to make a determination on the people that they’re talking about who are terrific people, they’re terrific people but we are gonna make a determination at that. But before we make that determination… it’s very important, we are going to secure our border.”
In the interview, Trump, who vowed during the campaign to dismantle President Barack Obama’s signature health care reforms, said he would keep parts of the program, including a provision banning insurers from denying coverage to those with major preexisting health conditions. Trump surrogates have also suggested that he may abandon or reshape other favorite campaign pledges, but he has yet to detail many of his intentions.
Trump is working quickly to shape his new government, even as thousands of protesters are taking to the streets in major cities in nightly demonstrations against his election.
Chief of staff selection
Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway said one key appointment — his White House chief of staff — is “imminent,” with several names under consideration as Trump prepares for his January 20 inauguration. It is an appointment that will help signal whether he plans to continue his campaign’s outsider attacks on the Washington establishment or adopt a more conciliatory tack in governing.
Conway said one Washington insider, Republican national chairman Reince Priebus, who helped forge Trump’s stunning upset of Democrat Hillary Clinton in last week’s election, has voiced interest in the demanding chief of staff job, whose occupant often helps set the agenda for U.S. presidents.
Another possibility is a distinct opposite, Steve Bannon, the head of the anti-Washington, alt-right Breitbart news web site before becoming the chief executive of Trump’s campaign.
Conway said he conducted meetings, made phone calls and had conversations and interviews about forming his government.
Trump met with Brexit leader Nigel Farage, who spearheaded the British vote to leave the European Union, discussing “freedom” and “winning.” Farage said Trump’s support for the long-standing U.S. relationship with Britain “is very strong.” He described Trump as “a man with whom we can do business.”
EU foreign ministers
Meanwhile, most of the European Union foreign ministers are meeting Sunday in Brussels to discuss the impact of Trump’s election on trans-Atlantic relations and how it might complicate the West’s contentious standing with Russia, whose leader, President Vladimir Putin, Trump often praised during his campaign. The British and French foreign ministers are staying away from the meeting, saying they objected to the Trump-related discussions.
Much of Europe was shocked by Trump’s election because of his suggestion during the campaign that the U.S. revisit its support for NATO, which has been a bedrock U.S.-European military alliance since the end of World War Two. EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said Trump poses risks for the relationship.
“I believe we’ll have two years of wasted time while Mr. Trump tours a world he doesn’t know,” Juncker said, referring to Trump’s lack of solid foreign policy priorities that has kept much of the world guessing as to his intents.
While Trump worked on taking office, Clinton, the former U.S. secretary of state who was trying to become the country’s first female president, on Saturday blamed her loss on the renewed investigation in the late stages of the campaign of her email practices and her handling of national security material while she was the country’s top diplomat.
Clinton blames FBI’s Comey
Clinton said the directive of James Comey, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, reopening the probe of the emails 11 days before the election after ending it without charges against her in July, curbed her campaign’s momentum at a time when she was surging against Trump.
Comey subsequently, two days before the election, said investigators had found nothing new to change its mind that she was “extremely careless” in handling the classified documents but that no criminal charges were warranted. Millions of people voted during the nine-day period in early balloting.
While Clinton cited the effects of the Comey intervention in her loss, numerous political analysts in the U.S. have attributed it more to her failure to connect politically with white, working class voters expressing their anger at cultural changes in the United States and global economic forces that have pushed U.S. companies to open manufacturing plants in other countries with cheaper labor.